Friday, August 05, 2005

I know, let's ban the buggers and drive them underground (pun not necessarily intended) - that'll make it easier to keep tabs on 'em...

And no, I have no knowledge of or interest in either of those groups - but they should be allowed to spout whatever nonsense they like as long as they don't incite violence, just as should the BNP and their ilk. Banning them achieves nothing especially useful beyond restricting the freedom of people in this country to form and hold repellant views. Which is a restriction on all of us.

And - honest, sincere question - can someone explain to me the logic of the government's apparent position whereby Iraq (a very prominent war going on for two years and in the papers and on telly every day, being seen and heard about by millions) has no influence on our terrorist buddies, yet a few small groups of nutty preachers (behind closed doors, monitored by the security services, and being seen and heard by mere tens of people) have such an immense impact that we have to proscribe their tinpot organisations and boot them out the country?

5 Comments:

Blogger Disillusioned kid said...

Banning Hizb ut-Tahrir, eh? That'll help.

8/05/2005 01:19:00 pm  
Blogger Disillusioned kid said...

Hambrough, I fear you are missing the point: banning HUT won't make them dissapear and may actually strengthen them. The Central Asian Respublics have banned them for years, arrested thousands of suspected members, torturing many of them. Has it actually helped? Not at all. If anything they're getting stronger.

8/05/2005 03:30:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Britain's a Central Asian Republic.

Thought your demographics would be a bit different. Bit of a come down I'd say.

8/05/2005 06:00:00 pm  
Blogger Disillusioned kid said...

I haven't got a clue what you're talking about Ronnie. Britian obviously isn't a Central Asian Republic. It isn't in Asia, let alone Central Asia and it isn't even a republic.

My point, which I though was fairly obvious, is that there is a precedent for banning Hizb ut-Tahrir and it doesn't appear to have a great record of success.

I also implied that the CARs were likely to be much more thorough in their implementation of bans than the authorities here. This might suggest that the British government is likely to have even less success.

Is that really so hard to understand?

8/05/2005 07:08:00 pm  
Blogger sean said...

I'm sure we banned the Nazi party in the war. We didn't worry about 'driving them underground'. Same difference.
Oh, and HuT are indeed preachers of hate, they distribute leaflets kalling for the killing of all Jews... 'wherever they are..'
Case closed.

8/06/2005 11:17:00 am  

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